Are Bluesky, the Fediverse, Nostr, Project Liberty and Farcaster part of a single movement?
good golly man. I have no idea. I'm not even sure that my fellow fedi peeps generally want the same thing I do. but then I think everybody on any of these services would be happier if nobody was on closed social media platforms anymore.
@evan in my opinion, to be part of the same movement, they must interact with each other.
Not that they should use the same protocol or something like this. But I see little to no contact amongst the people who develop all those projects.
@evan I snap voted yes, saw the results are overwhelming no, then realized I only knew three of them and only two really well.
So um… at least one yes vote was from a severely uninformed person who would like to offer a complete and utter retraction. :)
@evan No, but even without alignment, the collective movement of social links away from X, Alphabet, Microsoft, and Meta provides mutual benefits to every organization driving that movement.
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@evan "movement" implies some sort of coordination which just isn't there. I think it's more accurate to say they represent a new "decentralized" trend.
@evan Bluesky and Fedi sure, I haven't heard of half of the other ones
Thanks to everyone who replied. I will say yes, but it is a very tenuous connection. All of them are related to some kind of decentralized social networking. I think there are some very important differences, such as the difference between open standards and proprietary ones, and the role that a single commercial entity plays.
@evan "the role that a single commercial entity plays" That's why I voted "no." If a single commercial entity controls a decentralized network, it's not actually decentralized even if it is from a technical standpoint.
@McNeely "I will say yes, but it is a very tenuous connection" literally has "yes, but" in it.
@JessFairbairn what's connecting Bluesky and the Fediverse that doesn't connect them to the other efforts?
@McNeely does it imply that? I don't think so.
Wikipedia's article on social movements has the lovely schizophrenic style of interesting WP articles. "A social movement or popular movement is a loosely or carefully organized effort by a large group of people to achieve a particular goal, typically a social or political one."
@evan ah yes, but I never miss a chance to quote John Cleese https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwfuUyTMpVY
@jedi you might not be running in the right circles!
We have people from Bluesky and Project Liberty in the Social Web Community Group, and many ActivityPub people were at the IETF ATProto meeting.
@evan that's good news. It tells me AT Proto and Project Liberty are in the same movement as Activity Pub then.
NOSTR is not