@danjones000 @Matt_Noyes It does not hurt to try to reduce those emissions; reducing any emissions is good.
But claiming that AI is solely responsible for climate change is intellectually dishonest.
There are plenty of other problems with AI; "burning up the planet" is not a convincing one.
@evan @danjones000 Respectfully, the "shaming people" line is not serious, right? "solely responsible for climate change" - had anyone ever made that claim?
@Matt_Noyes @danjones000 I don't think climate change is a fair last resort when questioning someone's use of LLMs. There are plenty of other reasons not to use them.
@evan I don't think anyone in this thread used it as a "last resort" to question the use of LLMs. @Matt_Noyes brought it up as a legitimate problem. Nobody has said that it's the only problem. Nobody said that LLMs are there worst cause of climate change.
But when it was brought up as a problem, you dismissed it very casually because an individual's use of LLMs doesn't contribute much to the problem. When I brought up that an individual's use is not the actual problem because it takes a bunch of individuals to drive the demand that causes the problem (evidenced by the exponentially increasing demand for electricity-hungry data centers), you knocked down a bunch of strawmen.
That was intellectually dishonest.
