@benroyce

Agreed. They are either naive or complicit. It is unhelpful in the extreme to participate in raising anxiety. The pros are on the case. #uspol

@jawarajabbi

i see european accounts saying the vote in the USA is now corrupted

europeans also like to tell americans to vote third party

third party in an FPTP voting system divides the left and hands MAGA a win

and the vote is controlled by the states. maybe some red states will corrupt the vote but they are already red states

europeans are entitled to speak on american politics

but europeans really need to educate themselves before they say something which only harms their own concerns

@gpumoto @jawarajabbi

Mamdani ran as a democrat

@benroyce @jawarajabbi Yes, a person people wanted to vote for...

@gpumoto @jawarajabbi

a person people wanted to vote for *because they voted for him*

Mamdani is elected because people showed the fuck up, not because the democrat org offered him to us

you have cause and effect backwards

we show up, we get 50 Mamdanis

we complain the dem org isn't serving us what we want: stupid lazy excuse making = no Mamdanis

we just show the fuck up

that's it

we're in charge

fuck establishment dems, they're a red herring

Mamdani proves they don't matter, we matter

@benroyce @jawarajabbi Yeah, and Clinton was the right choice in 2016...

Berni would have been a much better choice but Clinton was business as usual.

@benroyce @gpumoto @jawarajabbi
Yes, it wasn’t because “there was a choice in the final election” it was because PEOPLE SHOWED UP AT THE PRIMARIES!
The old phrase “god helps those who help themselves” makes lots of sense here (regardless of what you want to replace the word “god” with) because ya ain’t gonna see any different results if you just sit back & “wait” for things to happen to you… you have to go out there and wrestle what you want from the system in order for it to work for you 😹

@em_and_future_cats @benroyce @gpumoto

I will say that based on a survey of one, a young man here in the US that I work with (recent graduate of the CA foster care system) I think from this current disaster young people are learning that voting is very important. And your point about primaries is well taken. Primaries is where the fight is this year. If we get great new candidates and young folks to the polls in the primaries we can build a New Demicratic Party. #uspol

@gpumoto @jawarajabbi

what are you saying

@benroyce @jawarajabbi You want votes, you put up candidates that people want to vote for...

The other way around doesn't work.

It will save you guys now because voting blue no matter who will get MAGA out.

Again the whole system in the USA is broken.

@gpumoto @jawarajabbi

i don't know why you don't get the point

the dem establishment served us cuomo in nyc

the people said "fuck that" and so we got mamdani

this notion "the establishment didn't serve us what we want so i'm not voting" means cuomo would be mayor now

new yorkers showed us who has the real power

we can spread this across the country

but first we have to lose your ridiculous mentality of blaming our own lazy inaction on others rather than just fucking showing up and voting

@benroyce @jawarajabbi Oh, I get it... I was an American and voted many years.

I know what it is like to go to the polls and not like both candidates. People don't vote because they don't feel represented.

Nothing changes for the better so my vote doesn't count.

This is the real problem.

This is the system... The broken system, that doesn't represent "The People".

@benroyce @gpumoto @jawarajabbi

The Dem Self-Shaming is completely out of control, Ben.

Which is a kamikaze suicide mission of epic idiot proportion.

@benroyce @gpumoto @jawarajabbi 💯

@SherBeareth @gpumoto @jawarajabbi

so we fix it

we do the cher to nicholas cage "snap out of it!" speech from "moonstruck"

😁

@benroyce @SherBeareth @gpumoto @jawarajabbi 💯‼️

@gpumoto @jawarajabbi

you bring up mamdani yet you don't understand the point of mamdani

what is the source of this mental block?

if people didn't vote because they didn't feel represented by cuomo- the entitled whiny lazy left sitting it out, then the right and centrists would give us cuomo anyway

but that's not what happened

instead leftists showed the fuck up *and* asserted their choice *against* the wishes of the dem org

*that* is the fix to the problem you are complaining about

@benroyce @jawarajabbi Oh I get Zohran Mamdani.

You made my point for me though... He is not an establishment Democrat.

It even made the news here how unhappy the Democratic party was with him...

He was an "outsider" but he was again, someone the people wanted to vote for.

They showed up and he won...

@gpumoto @jawarajabbi

"They showed up and he won"

there, you said it

please:

contemplate these words you have just written

consider the problem you are lamenting

and then put two and two together

there is your solution