@benroyce @jawarajabbi I think you guys are missing the point... They mean third party as in people that the people want to vote for, like Zohran Mamdani.
Politics in the USA is broken... The dems are not putting forward candidates that the people actually want. I have a feeling that a lot of "back room" politics have something to do with this.
Voter turn out is something like 60-65%
This should be a big enough indicator something is wrong.
@benroyce @jawarajabbi Yes, a person people wanted to vote for...
a person people wanted to vote for *because they voted for him*
Mamdani is elected because people showed the fuck up, not because the democrat org offered him to us
you have cause and effect backwards
we show up, we get 50 Mamdanis
we complain the dem org isn't serving us what we want: stupid lazy excuse making = no Mamdanis
we just show the fuck up
that's it
we're in charge
fuck establishment dems, they're a red herring
Mamdani proves they don't matter, we matter
@benroyce @jawarajabbi Yeah, and Clinton was the right choice in 2016...
Berni would have been a much better choice but Clinton was business as usual.
@benroyce @gpumoto @jawarajabbi
Yes, it wasn’t because “there was a choice in the final election” it was because PEOPLE SHOWED UP AT THE PRIMARIES!
The old phrase “god helps those who help themselves” makes lots of sense here (regardless of what you want to replace the word “god” with) because ya ain’t gonna see any different results if you just sit back & “wait” for things to happen to you… you have to go out there and wrestle what you want from the system in order for it to work for you 😹
@em_and_future_cats @benroyce @gpumoto
I will say that based on a survey of one, a young man here in the US that I work with (recent graduate of the CA foster care system) I think from this current disaster young people are learning that voting is very important. And your point about primaries is well taken. Primaries is where the fight is this year. If we get great new candidates and young folks to the polls in the primaries we can build a New Demicratic Party. #uspol
@benroyce @jawarajabbi You want votes, you put up candidates that people want to vote for...
The other way around doesn't work.
It will save you guys now because voting blue no matter who will get MAGA out.
Again the whole system in the USA is broken.
i don't know why you don't get the point
the dem establishment served us cuomo in nyc
the people said "fuck that" and so we got mamdani
this notion "the establishment didn't serve us what we want so i'm not voting" means cuomo would be mayor now
new yorkers showed us who has the real power
we can spread this across the country
but first we have to lose your ridiculous mentality of blaming our own lazy inaction on others rather than just fucking showing up and voting
@benroyce @jawarajabbi Oh, I get it... I was an American and voted many years.
I know what it is like to go to the polls and not like both candidates. People don't vote because they don't feel represented.
Nothing changes for the better so my vote doesn't count.
This is the real problem.
This is the system... The broken system, that doesn't represent "The People".
@benroyce @gpumoto @jawarajabbi
The Dem Self-Shaming is completely out of control, Ben.
Which is a kamikaze suicide mission of epic idiot proportion.
@SherBeareth @gpumoto @jawarajabbi
so we fix it
we do the cher to nicholas cage "snap out of it!" speech from "moonstruck"
😁
you bring up mamdani yet you don't understand the point of mamdani
what is the source of this mental block?
if people didn't vote because they didn't feel represented by cuomo- the entitled whiny lazy left sitting it out, then the right and centrists would give us cuomo anyway
but that's not what happened
instead leftists showed the fuck up *and* asserted their choice *against* the wishes of the dem org
*that* is the fix to the problem you are complaining about
@benroyce @jawarajabbi Oh I get Zohran Mamdani.
You made my point for me though... He is not an establishment Democrat.
It even made the news here how unhappy the Democratic party was with him...
He was an "outsider" but he was again, someone the people wanted to vote for.
They showed up and he won...
"They showed up and he won"
there, you said it
please:
contemplate these words you have just written
consider the problem you are lamenting
and then put two and two together
there is your solution
