@windsheep well if you aren't reliant on the service being available and instead use it like tools, the downtime doesn't matter because you can still do your job.

@windsheep I cant imagine being a carpenter having my batteries running out, and then just not doing my job. that's crazy.

@necrophcodr that is an ideal you need to work for. You'd be surprised how many developers stop working.

@windsheep I probably would be, but that's really just a skill issue and I'd wonder why they're even being paid at all then. if they cannot do the job on their own, why even hire them?

@necrophcodr unless you run your own business, skill is not the lever to get paid well.

Devs know this ;)

@windsheep oh im not talking about getting paid well, im simply stating that if one cannot do a job, that is a breach of contract and they should be fired or preferably not hired at all.

i don't operate my own business, i work in government, and that most assuredly is the consequence here.

@necrophcodr 20% of the devs do 100% of the work. The rest do Agile. ;)